A.D. (Member)  Posts: 7 Registered: 2010-04-20 14:46:57 | General Guidelines Posted: 2010-05-02 10:16:03 |
Being so new to this, I’m trying to formulate a basic recipe for avoiding failure. That said, from what I’ve read from various sources it seems like one should layer their compost like below.
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Dampened: Newspaper, Cardboard, or Leaves
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Decaying Food Scraps, Oatmeal, etc
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Soil, Peat-Moss, saw-dust, ground up leaves, etc
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Q1)Is this roughly correct?
Q2)If so, is the dampened top-layer is to shield the worms from direct light -AND- create a barrier to keep flies out of the decomposing food scraps?
Q3)If someone has one of your WORM INNs, that has a netted-screen for a top, is a top-layer (as defined above) even necessary? Seems like the screen-top would keep the flies out, but how important is it to offer darkness for the worms to surface as they need to?
Q4)And now I’m curious as to where the Worm Castings end up at. Will the worms create such on the bottom of the lowest layer, or will they be mixed-in (height-wise) throughout the lower layer?(i.e. soil, peat moss, etc)
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The Worm Dude (Admin)  Posts: 538 Registered: 2008-07-07 20:22:53 | General Guidelines Posted: 2010-05-02 14:47:42 |
Hi AD,
Let me systematically go through your questions. I think you will begin to see why I am hesitant in always giving a single simple answer. When dealing with worms, the most common answer is “It depends”.
Dampened Newpaper, coir, or leaves?
No problems here (Depending on the type of leaves). My bedding of choice is newspaper that has been soaked for 24 hours. Both coir and leaves will also work, but both have some drawbacks that make me prefer newspaper.
Decaying Food scraps,oatmeal,etc.?
Produce scraps are okay, although there are certain items most want to stay away from such as citrus peel. Frankly, I have yet tried citrus peel in The Worm Inn. Because of the air flow, it may just handle everything. Not sure yet.
Avoid mixing grains such as oatmeal throughout your bedding? Grains can sour your bedding, making your worms want to lay on top and rot. Grains are best used as a top feed and not mixed in.
Soil, peat moss, saw dust, ground up leaves, etc.?
Soil does nothing for composting worms but add weight to the bin. I’d avoid it. I’ve never added any soil to my worm beds, and have never had any issues. You’ve got all the bacteria you could ever need in you worm bedding that came with your worms.
Peat Moss is an okay bedding as long as it has been rinsed a few times. Canadian Peat Moss is very acidic, and can cause problems if it is not soaked well, and soaking it multiple times is a good option.
Saw Dust can be horrible depending on the type. For example, Redwood sawdust and worms are a bad combination. In my experience, the worms will not go into it. I have not tried many other types of sawdust because newspaper or cardboard work so well. I’ve heard some of the hardwood sawdust works well, but until I try something, I’m not going to comment on it’s success.
I’m not a huge fan of leaves….they don’t hold water well, and they tend to get messy as they break down. Paper/cardboard is clean.
The bedding material on top is used to create a barrier so the bugs do not smell the rottig vegetation. Want to test this theory?….leave some sweet fruit on top of your bedding and see what happens! I call this, “Fruit fly fog”!
Even though The Worm Inn already has the nice screened top, bugs will find a way if you do not maintain a thick layer of bedding.
The castings in The Worm Inn will fall to the bottom of the unit. You will end up building up a good amount, pushing the damp food and the worms to the top. When you have enough castings built up, simply unlock the toggles on the bottom and milk The Worm Inn like a cow. When you hit some unfinished stuff, simply close the bottom, lock the toggles, and throw the unfinished stuff back in to be reworked. Because the castings have had a chance to dry, most of your worms are going to be in the upper layers with the damp food. For more instructions on The Worm Inn, go to http://WWW.TheWormInn.Com.
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Strikh (Member)  Posts: 8 Registered: 2011-05-28 04:05:02 | General Guidelines Posted: 2011-05-28 04:13:12 |
I am also a newbie to vermicomposting, and I did just as the poster above said — included soil and sphagnum peat in my bedding.
My worms seem happy enough, but the bin is only about a month old.
Should I start over, or will it be okay the way it is?
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The Worm Dude (Admin)  Posts: 538 Registered: 2008-07-07 20:22:53 | General Guidelines Posted: 2011-05-29 14:03:17 |
If your worms are happy, it’s all good. I didn’t say that adding a bit of soil will kill your worms….I only stated that the soil will add no value here….only weight.
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Strikh (Member)  Posts: 8 Registered: 2011-05-28 04:05:02 | General Guidelines Posted: 2011-05-29 21:47:49 |
Thanks, Worm Dude!
You’ll probably see me around here a lot, since I’m new to vermicomposting.
*** Soooooo glad I found this forum!!! Just reading through numerous threads, I’ve gleaned some very helpful tips!
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The Worm Dude (Admin)  Posts: 538 Registered: 2008-07-07 20:22:53 | General Guidelines Posted: 2011-05-30 02:08:52 |
Welcome. Happy to have you here!
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Strikh (Member)  Posts: 8 Registered: 2011-05-28 04:05:02 | General Guidelines Posted: 2011-06-10 00:36:56 |
OK, I’m going to stop short of calling this a ”disaster”, but it’s certainly not what a vermicompost bin should be!
I’m using a plastic (not see through) rubbermaid bin for my worms. Holes in the side and top for air flow, and holes in the bottom for drainage. (I know now that a plastic tote is not a good way to go…)
There’s a small amount of water in the catch-bin (another lid from a different tote).
My worms aren’t trying to escape, and it doesn’t stink* (* = keep reading…)
They seem happy and healthy enough.
But I wanted my ”black gold” to be more pure, without the cow manure (aged, the kind you buy at Walmart in the bags), sphagnum peat moss, and garden soil (thought I needed this for ”grit”).
So…I got a screen — 1/4 inch squares — thinking I could screen out the soil and purify my castings (eventually).
But everything is far too mixed to do that. The bedding (torn cardboard, shredded newspaper, and corn shucks) is all mixed together with the dirt (which seems too wet to me, but the worms are digging through it like crazy).
I fear I can’t separate it without losing a large amount of my worm population (I bought ~2000 a few months ago).
So, here’s what I did (probably EXACTLY what I should NOT have done…)
I dumped it all — handful by handful — into another tote. The manure mix is definitely ”ripe” at the bottom of the tote, and FULL of worms!
I put about 6” of shredded newspaper (ran it through a paper shredder) and cardboard on the bottom, then layered 2” of soil mix, 6” of shredded paper, 2” of soil, etc until I had everything back in the tote (which is now about 80% full).
I figured I made my worms less happy, so I thawed a bag of pumpkin mush from the freezer, added a brown banana, and buried it in the corner of the newly done bin.
I misted the top layer of bedding fairly thoroughly with water, so they would be able to get a drink when needed.
I guess what my real question would be:
If I quit feeding them for a while, will they eat the manure/peat moss/top soil mix, and turn it to castings?
Or am I stuck with my own ”unique” version of a worm farm?
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The Worm Dude (Admin)  Posts: 538 Registered: 2008-07-07 20:22:53 | General Guidelines Posted: 2011-06-10 02:51:31 |
Strkh,
I’m waiting to hear the problem.
Sounds like you are fine to me. Let the worms process the mixture….as they process it, the level will drop…at that time, suggest adding a bunch of damp paper on top. Worst case, you have additional material for the worms to process, and you’ll have your rotting vegetation continually covered. This way you are less likely to attract a million bugs. The castings will fall to the bottom, so that is no problem.
When you want to harvest, you can simply push everything to one side and put food and bedding on the other…or simply dump out everything (processed material and worms) on a tarp, make some piles, and let the worms work their way down. Eventually you will be left with a couple gobs of worms to start the process again.
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Strikh (Member)  Posts: 8 Registered: 2011-05-28 04:05:02 | General Guidelines Posted: 2011-06-10 02:59:40 |
Thanks, Worm Dude.
I’m very relieved to hear you say things are okay for me, regardless of rookie mistakes I’ve made!
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